[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RedAssAg05 [/i]
[B]Unfortunately, we with the Battlestar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line project are at the mercy of the Source Code Project programmers as far as getting newtonian physics goes. They ARE working hard, implementing new features all the time.
I know for a fact that we have someone working to implement RCS thrusters into the flight model, which would bring it closer to the series, so long as the AI can handle it.
Needless to say, I am working hard on a story that fits snuggly into RDM's universe and should be--if the mission editors and voice actors can give it their best (which I know they will)--quite an experience for the player.
Anyway, that's my two bits. [URL]http://www.game-warden.com/forum[/URL] under Battlestar Galactica is where you'll find us! We're actively seeking voice actors and sound editors, and we're ALWAYS seeking modellers/texturers, and so forth!!
BTW, our mod was recently featured along with a couple others in the UK PC Gamer!! Unfortunately, TBP was overlooked...no idea why, they guy must've just missed it in his research (though lord knows how....maybe it's another WB conspiracy;-)
Regards,
Chris "Dukeman42"
Writer/Casting Director
BSG: Beyond the Red Line
a FS2_Open total conversion [/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RubberEagle [/i]
[B]stil, what tyrol and helo did was manslaughter, as they just shoved him away from boomer, and didn't deliberately pound his head against the bolt. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes and no. What they did was also justifiable homicide in the defense of a prisoner of war— but, of course, how can you take a toaster prisoner, let alone rape one? There will definitely be a trial, as well as massive fallout from the implications of whatever it comes to.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WORF [/i]
[B]I was thinking about it...and I realise the experience of nearly being executed and the beatings they recieved would be punishment enough, it's not like they're going to forget that experience quickly.[/B][/QUOTE]
Punishment for them, perhaps. That is arguable, but it's unlikely any disciplinary actions would be sufficient to deal with either of them; the situation is simply far too complicated. However, it is definitely not enough for everyone else, and the disciplinary actions that are necessary are not really necessary for Helo and Tyrol so much as they are necessary for the rest of the fleet and especially the military. Without it, military order will be severely compromised, and that is death in time of war.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RedAssAg05 [/i]
[B]Unfortunately, we with the Battlestar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line project are at the mercy of the Source Code Project programmers as far as getting newtonian physics goes. They ARE working hard, implementing new features all the time.
I know for a fact that we have someone working to implement RCS thrusters into the flight model, which would bring it closer to the series, so long as the AI can handle it.[/B][/QUOTE]
I know a little about FS2 and its limitations; I certainly hope you'll be able to overcome them. It just won't be right without proper physics and sound work.
By the way, I wouldn't mind offering some help with voice work. Do you guys still need more people for that, and are you taking anyone, regardless of recording equipment? $6 mic ftw.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]Yes and no. What they did was also justifiable homicide in the defense of a prisoner of war— but, of course, how can you take a toaster prisoner, let alone rape one? There will definitely be a trial, as well as massive fallout from the implications of whatever it comes to.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Define life. Intelligence. etc.
This is exactly the point RDM is making with Galactica....at what point does artificial life become life? The "new" cyclons are clearly biological entities. Does the fact that they were created by mechanical intelligence make them not alive? Without a soul?
As I said above, rape has a psychological effect not only on the victim, but on the witnesses as well. So, you can "rape a toaster" as you put it.
Justification is usually the first sign of denial.
Whoah, easy there. When was I justifying anything? I'm just saying that there are serious questions about the nature of humanity, sentience, and identity that will be raised when their actions are finally addressed with more than a towel and a bar of soap.
Actually Sanfam, at the very least they should have looked to see what all of the Cylon models looked like, it would make finding infiltrators a lot easier.
Of course that would be a nightmare for the production company, I think the reason we haven't seen all of the Cylon models yet is so they can introduce more of them if one of the actors isn't available.
Honestly, with the way that ship went down, I don't see that as particularly viable. It's arguable that it was designed to fail catastrophically in order to prevent just that sort of intelligence gathering as a last resort. The Cylons are well aware of thet actical benefits of infiltrators and the necessity of safeguarding their identies as much as possible.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]I know a little about FS2 and its limitations; I certainly hope you'll be able to overcome them. It just won't be right without proper physics and sound work.
By the way, I wouldn't mind offering some help with voice work. Do you guys still need more people for that, and are you taking anyone, regardless of recording equipment? $6 mic ftw. [/B][/QUOTE]
We are still taking auditions, so feel free to look up the voice acting audition thread over at game-warden / Battlestar Galactica forum! But we won't be taking apps for much longer:-)
Chris "Dukeman42"
Writer/Casting Director
BSG: Beyond the Red Line
a FS2_Open TC
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sanfam [/i]
[B]The one thing bugging me about the Resurrection Ship..
Spoiler: There could be a distinct possibility for the battlestars to scour the debris for deceased/"unactivated" humanocylons that they do not yet know of, however they did no such thing! Clearly, the battlestar pair demolished the opposition in what was a prime example of excellent planning and execution. It seems that the ship would probably stockpile unactivated humanocylons and turn them on as needed with the proper personalities, so this could be a good chance! However, I was not exactly watching the episode too closely, so there may be a distinct reason this was not done... [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: I thought about this the very second they showed the face of Six on the recon photos in part one. If the Cylons are so dumb as to put their models on display towards the outside of the ship then another pass or two with the Blackbird should have uncovered more faces assuming this ship carried more than just Six, Sharon and previously known cylon clones. I think however the idea of showing the Six face on the first part was done mainly for the dramatic to immediately indicate to the viewer what the purpose of the ship was. Its a more dramatic fashion rather than a technobabbly one explaining what the ship does. Seems they tend to take this approach with the show more than the seemingly logical one.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorlons in my Head [/i]
[B] Spoiler: I thought about this the very second they showed the face of Six on the recon photos in part one. If the Cylons are so dumb as to put their models on display towards the outside of the ship then another pass or two with the Blackbird should have uncovered more faces assuming this ship carried more than just Six, Sharon and previously known cylon clones. I think however the idea of showing the Six face on the first part was done mainly for the dramatic to immediately indicate to the viewer what the purpose of the ship was. Its a more dramatic fashion rather than a technobabbly one explaining what the ship does. Seems they tend to take this approach with the show more than the seemingly logical one. [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: And this is why BSG still fails to make it onto my favorites list... (Great music, great acting...except for a few dealbreakers)
They could settle for a comfortable middleground of plot development vs. realistic actions, but they usually leap towards the plot. For me, this is a bad thing. I like my doses of each to be balanced.
So many of the recent episodes have taken a turn for unrealistic lapses of judgement which either led directly to bad scenarios or ignored a chance to capitalize on a rare, highly favorable outcome...i.e. Galactica lacks supplies...so why not salvage some from the clouds of debris and wreckage they've left in the past few episodes? Just spend a couple of hours, perhaps, and jump at the first sign of the enemy!
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]Whoah, easy there. When was I justifying anything? I'm just saying that there are serious questions about the nature of humanity, sentience, and identity that will be raised when their actions are finally addressed with more than a towel and a bar of soap. [/B][/QUOTE]
Wasn't referring to you. Was referring to the Peg XO :)
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Sanfam [/i]
[B] Spoiler: And this is why BSG still fails to make it onto my favorites list... (Great music, great acting...except for a few dealbreakers)
They could settle for a comfortable middleground of plot development vs. realistic actions, but they usually leap towards the plot. For me, this is a bad thing. I like my doses of each to be balanced.
So many of the recent episodes have taken a turn for unrealistic lapses of judgement which either led directly to bad scenarios or ignored a chance to capitalize on a rare, highly favorable outcome...i.e. Galactica lacks supplies...so why not salvage some from the clouds of debris and wreckage they've left in the past few episodes? Just spend a couple of hours, perhaps, and jump at the first sign of the enemy! [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Actually, the recon photos only showed SIX clones. The BaseStar they destroyed at the end of Season 1 was loaded with Sharon Clones. It's entirely feasible that the ship clones one model at a time, and, at the point they intercepted, it happened to be "cloning" Six. I see no lack of continuity there..in fact, it seemed consistant with what was shown in Starbucks ReCon Photos in the Blackbird.
Hey I love BSG! What season are you guys on? I not read all the posts for fear of learning too much. Just started the 2nd season over here. You on the 3rd?? I know for ages after the 1st season that they didn't know if there'd be anymore.
I can't get into the 2nd season as well since its been so long since I seen the first. Was going to watch the last few of them again but I can't find them.
No, season 2 is 20 episodes. It took a break half way through for a couple months and has started up again. If you want to rewatch season 1, [url=http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3393919]just get a torrent[/url].
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by JackN [/i]
[B] Spoiler: Why would they need so many of the same for infiltration...
You get too many twins, and somethings smells fishy...
:P [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Well, that's not all they're used for. Apparently, they're a substantial portion of the overall Cylon population. Only a few are actually spying. There are probably dozens, if not hundreds aboard every basestar.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by MartianDust [/i]
[B]Hey I love BSG! What season are you guys on? I not read all the posts for fear of learning too much. Just started the 2nd season over here. You on the 3rd?? I know for ages after the 1st season that they didn't know if there'd be anymore.
I can't get into the 2nd season as well since its been so long since I seen the first. Was going to watch the last few of them again but I can't find them.
Marisa [/B][/QUOTE]
DUST!!! HAven't seen you in ages! still in the second season...a little over half-way through. You've gotta catch up...cant miss this series!!
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Arethusa [/i]
[B]No, season 2 is 20 episodes. It took a break half way through for a couple months and has started up again. If you want to rewatch season 1, [url=http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3393919]just get a torrent[/url]. [/B][/QUOTE]
It really all there? I don't have any disks at the mo. Then again I'd probably have trouble dloading it.
Red, hey how you doing? I know has been awhile. I do intend on seeing BSG. I watched all the first season just I've forgotten bits. The end of the last season was great!! Bit of a shocker when Captain got shot. Nearly fell of me chair, lol.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
[B] Spoiler: Well, that's not all they're used for. Apparently, they're a substantial portion of the overall Cylon population. Only a few are actually spying. There are probably dozens, if not hundreds aboard every basestar. [/B][/QUOTE]
Makes you wonder how do they tell each other apart. "Hello there model number six serial number 278634DHO34, how are you doing today? Well hello there model number four serial number 83JFN3678, I'm doing just fine thank you for asking. Killed myself a few dozen humans this morning, what fun!" Thats got to get very confusing.
Remember you can also buy them for $1.99 over iTunes. The quality is not that great to watch full screen on your computer but it gets the job done. You can also buy the first 10 of Season 2 on DVD already.
Aside from having to work till 10 pm tonight (BSG on at 9 pm), here's hoping that the wind doesn't fuck up my reception on DirecTV during the replay at midnight...
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by David of Mac [/i]
[B] Spoiler: Well, that's not all they're used for. Apparently, they're a substantial portion of the overall Cylon population. Only a few are actually spying. There are probably dozens, if not hundreds aboard every basestar. [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Could it be that the Cylons are attempting to look more like their creators
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Vorlons in my Head [/i]
[B]Remember you can also buy them for $1.99 over iTunes. The quality is not that great to watch full screen on your computer but it gets the job done. You can also buy the first 10 of Season 2 on DVD already. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thats cheap! And am surprised they are out on DVD already!
Thanks
Comments
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RedAssAg05 [/i]
[B]Unfortunately, we with the Battlestar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line project are at the mercy of the Source Code Project programmers as far as getting newtonian physics goes. They ARE working hard, implementing new features all the time.
I know for a fact that we have someone working to implement RCS thrusters into the flight model, which would bring it closer to the series, so long as the AI can handle it.
Needless to say, I am working hard on a story that fits snuggly into RDM's universe and should be--if the mission editors and voice actors can give it their best (which I know they will)--quite an experience for the player.
Anyway, that's my two bits. [URL]http://www.game-warden.com/forum[/URL] under Battlestar Galactica is where you'll find us! We're actively seeking voice actors and sound editors, and we're ALWAYS seeking modellers/texturers, and so forth!!
BTW, our mod was recently featured along with a couple others in the UK PC Gamer!! Unfortunately, TBP was overlooked...no idea why, they guy must've just missed it in his research (though lord knows how....maybe it's another WB conspiracy;-)
Regards,
Chris "Dukeman42"
Writer/Casting Director
BSG: Beyond the Red Line
a FS2_Open total conversion [/B][/QUOTE]
[B]stil, what tyrol and helo did was manslaughter, as they just shoved him away from boomer, and didn't deliberately pound his head against the bolt. [/B][/QUOTE]
Yes and no. What they did was also justifiable homicide in the defense of a prisoner of war— but, of course, how can you take a toaster prisoner, let alone rape one? There will definitely be a trial, as well as massive fallout from the implications of whatever it comes to.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by WORF [/i]
[B]I was thinking about it...and I realise the experience of nearly being executed and the beatings they recieved would be punishment enough, it's not like they're going to forget that experience quickly.[/B][/QUOTE]
Punishment for them, perhaps. That is arguable, but it's unlikely any disciplinary actions would be sufficient to deal with either of them; the situation is simply far too complicated. However, it is definitely not enough for everyone else, and the disciplinary actions that are necessary are not really necessary for Helo and Tyrol so much as they are necessary for the rest of the fleet and especially the military. Without it, military order will be severely compromised, and that is death in time of war.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by RedAssAg05 [/i]
[B]Unfortunately, we with the Battlestar Galactica: Beyond the Red Line project are at the mercy of the Source Code Project programmers as far as getting newtonian physics goes. They ARE working hard, implementing new features all the time.
I know for a fact that we have someone working to implement RCS thrusters into the flight model, which would bring it closer to the series, so long as the AI can handle it.[/B][/QUOTE]
I know a little about FS2 and its limitations; I certainly hope you'll be able to overcome them. It just won't be right without proper physics and sound work.
By the way, I wouldn't mind offering some help with voice work. Do you guys still need more people for that, and are you taking anyone, regardless of recording equipment? $6 mic ftw.
[B]Yes and no. What they did was also justifiable homicide in the defense of a prisoner of war— but, of course, how can you take a toaster prisoner, let alone rape one? There will definitely be a trial, as well as massive fallout from the implications of whatever it comes to.
[/B][/QUOTE]
Define life. Intelligence. etc.
This is exactly the point RDM is making with Galactica....at what point does artificial life become life? The "new" cyclons are clearly biological entities. Does the fact that they were created by mechanical intelligence make them not alive? Without a soul?
As I said above, rape has a psychological effect not only on the victim, but on the witnesses as well. So, you can "rape a toaster" as you put it.
Justification is usually the first sign of denial.
-R.
Of course that would be a nightmare for the production company, I think the reason we haven't seen all of the Cylon models yet is so they can introduce more of them if one of the actors isn't available.
Worf
[B]I know a little about FS2 and its limitations; I certainly hope you'll be able to overcome them. It just won't be right without proper physics and sound work.
By the way, I wouldn't mind offering some help with voice work. Do you guys still need more people for that, and are you taking anyone, regardless of recording equipment? $6 mic ftw. [/B][/QUOTE]
We are still taking auditions, so feel free to look up the voice acting audition thread over at game-warden / Battlestar Galactica forum! But we won't be taking apps for much longer:-)
Chris "Dukeman42"
Writer/Casting Director
BSG: Beyond the Red Line
a FS2_Open TC
I love it already.. they're starting the series here within few weeks.. but hell.. I think I got to get the first season on dvd asap..
Aww.. the miniseries ended up a bit bad tho.. not her! Not heeeer...
oh well.
I'd screw her anyway.
Sophisticated realldoll or not.
Glad there's that spoiler option in here...
dont worry the sharon model has a lot to do, and she is most definately still around.
[B]The one thing bugging me about the Resurrection Ship..
Spoiler: There could be a distinct possibility for the battlestars to scour the debris for deceased/"unactivated" humanocylons that they do not yet know of, however they did no such thing! Clearly, the battlestar pair demolished the opposition in what was a prime example of excellent planning and execution. It seems that the ship would probably stockpile unactivated humanocylons and turn them on as needed with the proper personalities, so this could be a good chance! However, I was not exactly watching the episode too closely, so there may be a distinct reason this was not done... [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: I thought about this the very second they showed the face of Six on the recon photos in part one. If the Cylons are so dumb as to put their models on display towards the outside of the ship then another pass or two with the Blackbird should have uncovered more faces assuming this ship carried more than just Six, Sharon and previously known cylon clones. I think however the idea of showing the Six face on the first part was done mainly for the dramatic to immediately indicate to the viewer what the purpose of the ship was. Its a more dramatic fashion rather than a technobabbly one explaining what the ship does. Seems they tend to take this approach with the show more than the seemingly logical one.
[B] Spoiler: I thought about this the very second they showed the face of Six on the recon photos in part one. If the Cylons are so dumb as to put their models on display towards the outside of the ship then another pass or two with the Blackbird should have uncovered more faces assuming this ship carried more than just Six, Sharon and previously known cylon clones. I think however the idea of showing the Six face on the first part was done mainly for the dramatic to immediately indicate to the viewer what the purpose of the ship was. Its a more dramatic fashion rather than a technobabbly one explaining what the ship does. Seems they tend to take this approach with the show more than the seemingly logical one. [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: And this is why BSG still fails to make it onto my favorites list... (Great music, great acting...except for a few dealbreakers)
They could settle for a comfortable middleground of plot development vs. realistic actions, but they usually leap towards the plot. For me, this is a bad thing. I like my doses of each to be balanced.
So many of the recent episodes have taken a turn for unrealistic lapses of judgement which either led directly to bad scenarios or ignored a chance to capitalize on a rare, highly favorable outcome...i.e. Galactica lacks supplies...so why not salvage some from the clouds of debris and wreckage they've left in the past few episodes? Just spend a couple of hours, perhaps, and jump at the first sign of the enemy!
[B]Whoah, easy there. When was I justifying anything? I'm just saying that there are serious questions about the nature of humanity, sentience, and identity that will be raised when their actions are finally addressed with more than a towel and a bar of soap. [/B][/QUOTE]
Wasn't referring to you. Was referring to the Peg XO :)
-R.
[B] Spoiler: And this is why BSG still fails to make it onto my favorites list... (Great music, great acting...except for a few dealbreakers)
They could settle for a comfortable middleground of plot development vs. realistic actions, but they usually leap towards the plot. For me, this is a bad thing. I like my doses of each to be balanced.
So many of the recent episodes have taken a turn for unrealistic lapses of judgement which either led directly to bad scenarios or ignored a chance to capitalize on a rare, highly favorable outcome...i.e. Galactica lacks supplies...so why not salvage some from the clouds of debris and wreckage they've left in the past few episodes? Just spend a couple of hours, perhaps, and jump at the first sign of the enemy! [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Actually, the recon photos only showed SIX clones. The BaseStar they destroyed at the end of Season 1 was loaded with Sharon Clones. It's entirely feasible that the ship clones one model at a time, and, at the point they intercepted, it happened to be "cloning" Six. I see no lack of continuity there..in fact, it seemed consistant with what was shown in Starbucks ReCon Photos in the Blackbird.
IMO :)
-R.
You get too many twins, and somethings smells fishy...
:P
[B] Spoiler: Why would they need so many of the same for infiltration...
You get too many twins, and somethings smells fishy...
:P [/B][/QUOTE]
Must...resist...off...colo(u)r...comment...guuuuuaaaaaaaaaHHH!!!!!
;)
-R.
I can't get into the 2nd season as well since its been so long since I seen the first. Was going to watch the last few of them again but I can't find them.
Marisa
[B] Spoiler: Why would they need so many of the same for infiltration...
You get too many twins, and somethings smells fishy...
:P [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Well, that's not all they're used for. Apparently, they're a substantial portion of the overall Cylon population. Only a few are actually spying. There are probably dozens, if not hundreds aboard every basestar.
[B]Hey I love BSG! What season are you guys on? I not read all the posts for fear of learning too much. Just started the 2nd season over here. You on the 3rd?? I know for ages after the 1st season that they didn't know if there'd be anymore.
I can't get into the 2nd season as well since its been so long since I seen the first. Was going to watch the last few of them again but I can't find them.
Marisa [/B][/QUOTE]
DUST!!! HAven't seen you in ages! still in the second season...a little over half-way through. You've gotta catch up...cant miss this series!!
[B]No, season 2 is 20 episodes. It took a break half way through for a couple months and has started up again. If you want to rewatch season 1, [url=http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3393919]just get a torrent[/url]. [/B][/QUOTE]
It really all there? I don't have any disks at the mo. Then again I'd probably have trouble dloading it.
Red, hey how you doing? I know has been awhile. I do intend on seeing BSG. I watched all the first season just I've forgotten bits. The end of the last season was great!! Bit of a shocker when Captain got shot. Nearly fell of me chair, lol.
Nice you're still around.
Marisa :)
[B] Spoiler: Well, that's not all they're used for. Apparently, they're a substantial portion of the overall Cylon population. Only a few are actually spying. There are probably dozens, if not hundreds aboard every basestar. [/B][/QUOTE]
Makes you wonder how do they tell each other apart. "Hello there model number six serial number 278634DHO34, how are you doing today? Well hello there model number four serial number 83JFN3678, I'm doing just fine thank you for asking. Killed myself a few dozen humans this morning, what fun!" Thats got to get very confusing.
:mad:
[B] Spoiler: Well, that's not all they're used for. Apparently, they're a substantial portion of the overall Cylon population. Only a few are actually spying. There are probably dozens, if not hundreds aboard every basestar. [/B][/QUOTE]
Spoiler: Could it be that the Cylons are attempting to look more like their creators
Jake
"Are you alive?"
"Even in his anguish, he seemed so... [i]alive[/i]."
I'm not going to try to remember it, but Six's talk about sports also fit in with the "alive" theme.
[B]Remember you can also buy them for $1.99 over iTunes. The quality is not that great to watch full screen on your computer but it gets the job done. You can also buy the first 10 of Season 2 on DVD already. [/B][/QUOTE]
Thats cheap! And am surprised they are out on DVD already!
Thanks
Winds kicking up, TV is coming and going...
:mad:
get on MSN :)
-R.