Eh, what's a nuke or two... or three when you've got planet killers, high power lasers, firstones, orbital bombardment and telepaths running amuck. Nuke on Sheridan, Nuke on!
Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
Exactly. He uses so many other weapons, nukes barely register.
OK, so they do register cause he uses them so much... but if you had access to great big nukes, wouldn't you use them on your enemies when there was no other way? OK, so maybe we wouldn't...
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
Erm...he uses nukes three times in the entire story arc. I would hardly call that a fascination. I've eaten roast beef more times than that in a lesser time frame, and I don't find myself fascinated about it.
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[quote]Originally posted by Shuup Nick:
[b]Erm...he uses nukes three times in the entire story arc. I would hardly call that a fascination. I've eaten roast beef more times than that in a lesser time frame, and I don't find myself fascinated about it.
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Sheridan: Anyone got any nukes left?
Ivanova: You used the last one in that party with the green and purple drazi...
Sheridan: Ohh yeah, now I remember. Atleast it stopped the fighting.
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youshould also recognize that in the middle of outerspace, the environmental ramifications of nuclear weapons are pretty inconsequential, it's planetary use of them that causes all the commotion with the treehuggers [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
[quote]Originally posted by MattD2:
[b]youshould also recognize that in the middle of outerspace, the environmental ramifications of nuclear weapons are pretty inconsequential, it's planetary use of them that causes all the commotion with the treehuggers [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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Uh huh, in the whole story he only uses them a few times. BUT, how many conflicts are of sufficient size to justify the use? I'd say few enough, and in most of them he uses nukes.
[quote]Originally posted by A Eunuch:
[b]Uh huh, in the whole story he only uses them a few times. BUT, how many conflicts are of sufficient size to justify the use? I'd say few enough, and in most of them he uses nukes. [/b][/quote]
This is set in the future, #1, they might be much cleaner nukes than we have today, #2, in space, nobody can hear you scream, #4
(yes #4, #3 was boring) perhaps in the future nukes are no worse than a conventional weapon today, I mean you've got planet killers, death clouds, particle weapons, and Pak'Ma'Ra porn. Nukes seem pretty tame.
[quote]Originally posted by WORF:
[b]"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, its the only way to be sure," -Ripley, Aliens-
Worf
[/b][/quote]
"hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it." -- Burke, Aliens
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Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
He did win, did he not?
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[quote]Originally posted by Shuup Nick:
[b]Erm...he uses nukes three times in the entire story arc. I would hardly call that a fascination. I've eaten roast beef more times than that in a lesser time frame, and I don't find myself fascinated about it.
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Correction...4 times...hehe
1.)IfB - on the BlackStar
2.)ItF - between the vorlons and shadows
3.)On shawdow homeworld
4.)Thirdspace
5 If you include ACtA but he actually didn't detonate one there and 6 if you include detonating that jumpgate because that was one hell of a bang and 7 if you include transmitting that data to the probe that made contact with B5 and 8 if you include blowing up the nuke that was going to be used on B4. But you odn't have to count those because 4 is still a lot.
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Sheridan: "I really think that David should get a nuclear warhead for his 7th birthday. It'll teach him to be a responsible individual like me."
Delenn: "I think we'd better have Stephen take another look at you, John."
Sheridan: "How about a puppy that is ALSO a nuclear warhead? That way it'll be cute and explosive at the same time..."
Delenn: "Um, here's something shiney John, I'm gonna go make that call..."
Sheridan: "Ohhh... Shiney... Just like a fusion initiator..."
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[quote]Originally posted by A Eunuch:
[b]Uh huh, in the whole story he only uses them a few times. BUT, how many conflicts are of sufficient size to justify the use? I'd say few enough, and in most of them he uses nukes. [/b][/quote]
The detenation of Nukes in space is the equivalent those large bombs they used in Vietnam to make LZ's. It is a very usful and logical weapon to use in space. There are absolutly no enviormental concernes becasue space is already a radioactive envioroment. It's not the all-powerful world ending weapon it is here on Earth. It's just a rather large explosion.
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-John Sheridan
"To alcohol the solution to and cause of all of life's problems."
-Homer Jay Simpson
Damn I love that movie. Anyone know if the special edition is any good in DVD (or if it is even out single)? I love the uncut one with the sentry guns... I want a few of those. My own personal defense system [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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That it does, I actually got the 4 disc set Alien Ressurection, I love it, it also came with a great 5th Making Of DVD, with interviews with the cast, an interviews with H.R. Giger, (who looks SO much like Walter Koenig that its not funny)
[quote]Originally posted by rhett:
[b]Damn I love that movie. Anyone know if the special edition is any good in DVD (or if it is even out single)? I love the uncut one with the sentry guns... I want a few of those. My own personal defense system [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Don't be surprised if your mail service suddenly stops.
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[quote]Originally posted by TheSaint:
[b] Don't be surprised if your mail service suddenly stops.
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Thats ok. Noone could find me... I should get the DVD one. I have the VHS one. But what extra does the DVD one have that the VHS doesnt? Thanks.
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Biggles<font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
I love the director's cut. Those autocannons just plain rock. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[quote]Originally posted by Biggles:
[b]I love the director's cut. Those autocannons just plain rock. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
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They are a pain in avp2.
Worf
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Captain Gideon: I thought you said you dont hold a grudge?
Galen: I dont, I have no surviving enemies...at all
Ave Primo-Populi (Hail the Firstones)
[This message has been edited by WORF (edited 12-08-2001).]
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OK, so they do register cause he uses them so much... but if you had access to great big nukes, wouldn't you use them on your enemies when there was no other way? OK, so maybe we wouldn't...
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
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[b]Erm...he uses nukes three times in the entire story arc. I would hardly call that a fascination. I've eaten roast beef more times than that in a lesser time frame, and I don't find myself fascinated about it.
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Mmmm roast beef..
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..And so it Begins
Ivanova: You used the last one in that party with the green and purple drazi...
Sheridan: Ohh yeah, now I remember. Atleast it stopped the fighting.
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Let's see...
Starting a Jump point within an open Jump gate...
Bang!
Using a whole Whitestar for a Fusion process on Zahahahadoom...
Bang!
Nukes are probably like old family members, he runs home to them on the holidays...
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MattD
[b]youshould also recognize that in the middle of outerspace, the environmental ramifications of nuclear weapons are pretty inconsequential, it's planetary use of them that causes all the commotion with the treehuggers [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
MattD[/b][/quote]
LOL [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img] [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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[This message has been edited by Skullar (edited 12-06-2001).]
Worf
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Captain Gideon: I thought you said you dont hold a grudge?
Galen: I dont, I have no surviving enemies...at all
Ave Primo-Populi (Hail the Firstones)
Sheridan + Nukes = Victory
[b]Uh huh, in the whole story he only uses them a few times. BUT, how many conflicts are of sufficient size to justify the use? I'd say few enough, and in most of them he uses nukes. [/b][/quote]
This is set in the future, #1, they might be much cleaner nukes than we have today, #2, in space, nobody can hear you scream, #4
(yes #4, #3 was boring) perhaps in the future nukes are no worse than a conventional weapon today, I mean you've got planet killers, death clouds, particle weapons, and Pak'Ma'Ra porn. Nukes seem pretty tame.
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..And so it Begins
[b]"I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit, its the only way to be sure," -Ripley, Aliens-
Worf
[/b][/quote]
"hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it." -- Burke, Aliens
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..And so it Begins
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[b]Erm...he uses nukes three times in the entire story arc. I would hardly call that a fascination. I've eaten roast beef more times than that in a lesser time frame, and I don't find myself fascinated about it.
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Correction...4 times...hehe
1.)IfB - on the BlackStar
2.)ItF - between the vorlons and shadows
3.)On shawdow homeworld
4.)Thirdspace
5 If you include ACtA but he actually didn't detonate one there and 6 if you include detonating that jumpgate because that was one hell of a bang and 7 if you include transmitting that data to the probe that made contact with B5 and 8 if you include blowing up the nuke that was going to be used on B4. But you odn't have to count those because 4 is still a lot.
[This message has been edited by Ranger1 (edited 12-06-2001).]
Delenn: "I think we'd better have Stephen take another look at you, John."
Sheridan: "How about a puppy that is ALSO a nuclear warhead? That way it'll be cute and explosive at the same time..."
Delenn: "Um, here's something shiney John, I'm gonna go make that call..."
Sheridan: "Ohhh... Shiney... Just like a fusion initiator..."
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"God's in his heaven. All's right with the world."
[b]Uh huh, in the whole story he only uses them a few times. BUT, how many conflicts are of sufficient size to justify the use? I'd say few enough, and in most of them he uses nukes. [/b][/quote]
The detenation of Nukes in space is the equivalent those large bombs they used in Vietnam to make LZ's. It is a very usful and logical weapon to use in space. There are absolutly no enviormental concernes becasue space is already a radioactive envioroment. It's not the all-powerful world ending weapon it is here on Earth. It's just a rather large explosion.
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"Ambassador we all know that the first casulty of war is the truth."
-John Sheridan
"To alcohol the solution to and cause of all of life's problems."
-Homer Jay Simpson
[b] "hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar value attached to it." -- Burke, Aliens
[/b][/quote]
"They can bill me," -Ripley, Aliens-
Worf
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Captain Gideon: I thought you said you dont hold a grudge?
Galen: I dont, I have no surviving enemies...at all
Ave Primo-Populi (Hail the Firstones)
[b] "They can bill me," -Ripley, Aliens-
Worf
[/b][/quote]
"he's just a grunt, he's not qualified to make that decision, no offence" -- Burke Aliens
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..And so it Begins
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[i]"Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future, or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain."[/i] G'Kar, Season 3
Please check out the Babylon 5 mod for Battlecruiser Millenium at [url="http://mods.firstones.com/B5BCM"]http://mods.firstones.com/B5BCM[/url]
Yes, yes, and yes...
The directors cut has sooooo much more that the original theatrical edit.
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[b]Rhett:
Yes, yes, and yes...
The directors cut has sooooo much more that the original theatrical edit.
[img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img][/b][/quote]
That it does, I actually got the 4 disc set Alien Ressurection, I love it, it also came with a great 5th Making Of DVD, with interviews with the cast, an interviews with H.R. Giger, (who looks SO much like Walter Koenig that its not funny)
Its really worth the price of admission.
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..And so it Begins
[b]Damn I love that movie. Anyone know if the special edition is any good in DVD (or if it is even out single)? I love the uncut one with the sentry guns... I want a few of those. My own personal defense system [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
[/b][/quote]
Don't be surprised if your mail service suddenly stops.
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"God's in his heaven. All's right with the world."
[b] Don't be surprised if your mail service suddenly stops.
[/b][/quote]
Thats ok. Noone could find me... I should get the DVD one. I have the VHS one. But what extra does the DVD one have that the VHS doesnt? Thanks.
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[i]"Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this peril we can never surrender. The future is all around us, waiting in moments of transition, to be born in moments of revelation. No one knows the shape of that future, or where it will take us. We know only that it is always born in pain."[/i] G'Kar, Season 3
Please check out the Babylon 5 mod for Battlecruiser Millenium at [url="http://mods.firstones.com/B5BCM"]http://mods.firstones.com/B5BCM[/url]
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[b][url="http://www.minbari.co.uk/log12.2263/"]Required reading[/url][/b]
Never eat anything bigger than your own head.
The Balance provides. The Balance protects.
"Nonono...Is not [i]Great[/i] Machine. Is...[i]Not[/i]-so-Great Machine. It make good snow cone though." - Zathras
[b]I love the director's cut. Those autocannons just plain rock. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
[/b][/quote]
They are a pain in avp2.
Worf
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Captain Gideon: I thought you said you dont hold a grudge?
Galen: I dont, I have no surviving enemies...at all
Ave Primo-Populi (Hail the Firstones)
[This message has been edited by WORF (edited 12-08-2001).]