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Jake's Guide to All Star Trek Shows
Freejack
Jake the Not-so-Wise
in Zocalo v2.0
Its official, I have completed my official guide to all Star Trek shows. Once read you will be able to quickly ascertain the type, plot and outcome of any Star Trek episode.
Episode Type I
Plot:
Crew meets new alien race
Race seems peaceful and intelligent and has great technology
Moral or technological problem arises
Crew solves problem, often breaking prime directive
Episode Type II
Plot:
Crew meets bad-ass alien race
Ship and/or crew get the snot beat out of them, almost to the verge of destruction
A massive leap in technology takes place on the spot
Crew escapes through use of new tech.
Episode Type III
Plot:
Crew thinks everything is great
Massive mechanical failure or medical emergency befalls ship and/or crew
A massive leap in technology takes place on the spot
Crew survives through use of new tech.
Episode Type IV
Plot:
Q shows up
Chaos ensues
There you now have a guide to the basic premise of every Star Trek show. If the show you’ve watching does not fit into these scenarios, your probably watch Deep Space 9, which is really a copy of Babylon 5, so quit watching DS9 and go watch B5.
Jake
Episode Type I
Plot:
Crew meets new alien race
Race seems peaceful and intelligent and has great technology
Moral or technological problem arises
Crew solves problem, often breaking prime directive
Episode Type II
Plot:
Crew meets bad-ass alien race
Ship and/or crew get the snot beat out of them, almost to the verge of destruction
A massive leap in technology takes place on the spot
Crew escapes through use of new tech.
Episode Type III
Plot:
Crew thinks everything is great
Massive mechanical failure or medical emergency befalls ship and/or crew
A massive leap in technology takes place on the spot
Crew survives through use of new tech.
Episode Type IV
Plot:
Q shows up
Chaos ensues
There you now have a guide to the basic premise of every Star Trek show. If the show you’ve watching does not fit into these scenarios, your probably watch Deep Space 9, which is really a copy of Babylon 5, so quit watching DS9 and go watch B5.
Jake
Comments
AHA! You forgot the political ones!
Crew meets with known alien race
Member of crew faces trial
Member of crew faces death, but with the aid of their ship escapes alive.
[B]hmm...*Tries to think of another catagory*
AHA! You forgot the political ones! [/B][/QUOTE]
I've got one;
A small child turns up and has an emotional/identity crisis, maybe in conjunction with one of the crew, resulting in many other crew members being involved in sorting this child's problem out.
Jesus, after watching all of Babylon 5 seasons 2-5 recently, I've realized just how [i]predictable[/i] Star Trek is...
Regards,
Morden
That is so true.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Freejack [/i]
[B]Episode Type IV
Plot:
Q shows up
Chaos ensues[/B][/QUOTE]
These ones, at least, were entertaining. Well, the TNG ones were. The Voyager ones sucked.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
[B]These ones, at least, were entertaining. Well, the TNG ones were. The Voyager ones sucked. [/B][/QUOTE]
Hold on, let my get my scissors...
*Snip Snip Snip*
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Biggles [/i]
[B]Voyager sucked. [/B][/QUOTE]
There you go. :)
Regards,
Morden
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Freejack [/i]
[B]There you now have a guide to the basic premise of every Star Trek show. If the show you’ve watching does not fit into these scenarios, your probably watch Deep Space 9, which is really a copy of Babylon 5, so quit watching DS9 and go watch B5.
Jake [/B][/QUOTE]
Not quite.
The Shadows were so UNlike the Dominion it's funny. The Shadow War was so diferent from the Dominion War that I cannot fathom how one could connect them.
The crew was not a mirror image of B5's, and the relation between the station and the planet were MUCH different.
[B]It's a Morden-esque cut and paste version of B5. Like those refrigerator magnets with words on them. B5 was "The Best Show Ever," and DS9 was "Best Ever The Show." [/B][/QUOTE]
It's at a station. The Defiant looks like a WS. The captain barely escaped death in a massive battle with a conquering race. (although in a much much different fashion) It featured two races who despised each other.
It's not a ripoff of B5 just because it was also good.
[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Morden279 [/i]
[B]Hold on, let my get my scissors...
*Snip Snip Snip*
There you go. :)
Regards,
Morden [/B][/QUOTE]
Yeah, that too. :)
Jake
Apart from the obvious likenesses like being in a station near a vortex of some sorts close to a planet that is not earth...
G'kar = Kira : Resistance fighters in a species conquered and enslaved by another.
Londo = Gul Dukat : Emissary of the species that conquered the former characters world. Eventually rises to command his species.
Sheridan = Sisko : Dies and lives again. Very close to a god like species.
shall I go on?
[B]"The Bear and the Dragon"[/B][/QUOTE]
Never heard of it...
[B]Well...
Apart from the obvious likenesses like being in a station near a vortex of some sorts close to a planet that is not earth...
G'kar = Kira : Resistance fighters in a species conquered and enslaved by another.
Londo = Gul Dukat : Emissary of the species that conquered the former characters world. Eventually rises to command his species.
Sheridan = Sisko : Dies and lives again. Very close to a god like species.
shall I go on? [/B][/QUOTE]
You don't have to, those are more than co-incidence; especially Sisko.
It's a shame; out of all of the Star Trek series, DS9 was my favorite; it featured the best stories, action, and plotlines. Now I know why.
Regards,
Morden
[B]Hmm.. Suppose you're part of that group who thought Tom Clancy's "The Bear and the Dragon" was a direct ripoff of "Endgame"... [/B][/QUOTE]
Which one, Voyager's, B5's, or a third? 'Cause I really don't see it with the first two.
By the way, Jack Ryan is da man.
[B]By the way, Jack Ryan is da man. [/B][/QUOTE]
Really? I prefer Shane Schofield. ;)
Regards,
Morden
Of course that isnt Tom Clancy.
Worf
[B]Jack...Bauer[/B][/QUOTE]
I must admit, Jack Bauer's the f*cking don. ;)
Regards,
Morden
TNG = Good, less original, but still good
DSN = S1 good, after that I stopped watching, S2 sucked
Voyager = horrid....
Enterprise = Rock on. :)
[B]You don't have to, those are more than co-incidence; especially Sisko.
It's a shame; out of all of the Star Trek series, DS9 was my favorite; it featured the best stories, action, and plotlines. Now I know why.
Regards,
Morden [/B][/QUOTE]
But do the similarities really matter? Something I've noticed is that B5 and DS9 did indeed have similar elements, many of which could easily have been stolen from one another, but, what made them great was the fact that they both focused on honest to goodness character development and telling a story as best as it damn well could be told.
It worked, and it ruled.
Plus, DS9 had Dax. *drool*
;)
Worf
[B]But do the similarities really matter? Something I've noticed is that B5 and DS9 did indeed have similar elements, many of which could easily have been stolen from one another, but, what made them great was the fact that they both focused on honest to goodness character development and telling a story as best as it damn well could be told.
[/B][/QUOTE]
I think part of the focus on charater and story development came, out of neccessity from the basic fact that the station was just that, stationary. They couldn't go find a new race or go find trouble for themselves each week (like Voyager). They also couldn't rely so much on tech to get them by.
Jake
[B]I like the part where in the book they storm the house with MP10s and blow everyone's heads off with 3 perfect shots. [/B][/QUOTE]
Mmm... Mp10s... Teflon-coated 10mm jacketted hollow-points anyone? :D
Regards,
Morden
[B]I think part of the focus on charater and story development came, out of neccessity from the basic fact that the station was just that, stationary. They couldn't go find a new race or go find trouble for themselves each week (like Voyager). They also couldn't rely so much on tech to get them by.
Jake [/B][/QUOTE]
I agree. It's such a pity that they went so far in the opposite direction with Voyager.
[B]so S3 got good? heh [/B][/QUOTE]
Yep! That's where all the big stuff starts happening, and it just gets better from there.