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Intel based iMac unveiled
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Associated Press is reporting that Steve Jobs has just unveiled it.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/10/AR2006011000134.html[/url]
No other news about it yet. Even Apple's website doesn't have a press release about it yet.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/10/AR2006011000134.html[/url]
No other news about it yet. Even Apple's website doesn't have a press release about it yet.
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hmmm :alien:
[B]Can't wait to hear the hands on reviews once they come out. [/B][/QUOTE]
MacBook Pro will probably be my next PC.
Should Run WindowsXP great too :)
-R.
hmmmm...
brings up a plethora of issues tho...
...cross platform virii...
...loss of Mac identity, drive to be different...
...a billion Geeks and Nerds crying out in horror about having one of thier favourite circular arguments destroyed in one fell swoop..:)
...games on a Mac actually meaning something...
~~~
to name but a few
This all goes for virii, too. Almost all virii take advantage of flaws in the operating system, not in the hardware.
Now, the loss of Mac identity could be a problem. :) As a programmer, Macs have lost one of their key attractive features now: they were a different architecture, and thus something different to program for. They probably arn't any more.
[B]MacBook Pro will probably be my next PC.
Should Run WindowsXP great too :)
-R. [/B][/QUOTE]
I think i'm going to pick up an iMac if i cna get someone to buy my old van.
Course my wife isn't happy "you wont let me spend money on shirts for the kids, but you can buy a $1299 computer?"
she does have a point... hrm..
Anywho, I have a feeling that it's going to blow over. "MacBook Pro" is probably just there to differentiate it from the G4 PowerBooks. Once those are gone, the MacBook will probably go back to being a PowerBook. Sort of like how the "iPod Photo" went back to being just plain "iPod" once the whole line had color screens. Once it stops being special, it'll lose the special name.
Still, it'd be nice if some of those MacBook features made it onto the PowerBook. Especially that magnetic power cord. In fact, just the magnetic power cord would be fine. [i]There's[/i] an idea that took entirely too long to be invented. ;)
I remember my school started switching to PPC based systems in 1994 when they first came out, and by 1998 all but a few tertiary labs (and the English department that still used Apple IIe's!) were entirely PPCs running OS8.
Mac's have only used two lines of chips until now:
68000 series from Motorola until ~1994/5 (running through Mac OS-OS6).
PPC series from 1994-present for OS7-OSX.
And now, 2006, we get the Intel based Mac's running OSX.
--RC
[B]I think i'm going to pick up an iMac if i cna get someone to buy my old van.
Course my wife isn't happy "you wont let me spend money on shirts for the kids, but you can buy a $1299 computer?"
she does have a point... hrm.. [/B][/QUOTE]
...and her point is.....?
[B]
Still, it'd be nice if some of those MacBook features made it onto the PowerBook. Especially that magnetic power cord. In fact, just the magnetic power cord would be fine. [i]There's[/i] an idea that took entirely too long to be invented. ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
Actually, I hate that power cord....because it means I can't use my iBook cord on the bloody thing.
[B]Uh, hate to say it, but I'm pretty sure that powerbook doesn't predate the PPC.[/B][/QUOTE]
I don't hate to say it, but you're wrong. :D Well, wrong to the point that Apple did have non-PPC powerbooks. The powerbook line has been around since 1991. We used to have one of the early ones no loan from somewhere. They were nice laptops.
For confirmation, I checked the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powerbook]wiki page.[/url] :)
[B]In fact, the last Mac that didn't was produced in 1995? It was called the Mac Classic, and was a nice grey screen in a very ugly rectangular box that include both mobo and CRT monitor. [/B][/QUOTE]
No, the Mac Classic was produced from '90 to '92. The last of the computers with a 68000 series processor was probably a model of Performa or maybe one of the clones.
Dug
[B]You're not supposed to correct me. [/B][/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure Quadras and Performas were out at the same time, one was pro one was home.
Dug
The apple lineup around then was really messy. Models overlapped like crazy, with expansion and "feature inclusiveness" being the differentiating factors. But in the end, the differences were so few that models like the quadras would be overpriced to the point of becoming undesirable. Performas also had the silly problem, for a while, with being gigantic. the all-in-one formfactor in some of the models meant the could not be easily upgraded to better screens, nor the interior bits and pieces tinkered with.
No idea why I just went on that rant. I think I should go back to Escape Velocity on the Quadra :P
For those needing clarification on when specific macs came about go to [url]www.everymac.com[/url]
All the info you need there.
Biggles... from reading comments from quite a few game developers most are optomistic that the move to Intel will make it easier to make mac games. Some say it won't, others maybe etc etc. There are lots of grey areas of course none of which I'd have understanding of. I'm sure at this stage the vast majority know what the score is. Heck even Blizzard have WoW running under Rosetta emulation and say its playable. And their next patch will be dual binary format too and reports from the recent Expo say the native Intel version screams. Having the pretty decent Radeon x1600 in the new iMacs is a pretty good move by Apple... makes a change from their usual attitude in sticking a crappy 2yr old non gaming card in their "consumer" macs.
[B]Indeed Sanfam the latter days of Apple prior to Job's return was just plain chaos. They had too many models, too many configurations and no real strategy. Its one thing I've hated with the pc market, they show you a system which has a stupid long number to represent the configuration and expect joe blogs customer to understand what it means. No sir I'm not sure if I'm interested in buying the "1730nxbultra2400" today thanks very much :D
For those needing clarification on when specific macs came about go to [url]www.everymac.com[/url]
All the info you need there.
Biggles... from reading comments from quite a few game developers most are optomistic that the move to Intel will make it easier to make mac games. Some say it won't, others maybe etc etc. There are lots of grey areas of course none of which I'd have understanding of. I'm sure at this stage the vast majority know what the score is. Heck even Blizzard have WoW running under Rosetta emulation and say its playable. And their next patch will be dual binary format too and reports from the recent Expo say the native Intel version screams. Having the pretty decent Radeon x1600 in the new iMacs is a pretty good move by Apple... makes a change from their usual attitude in sticking a crappy 2yr old non gaming card in their "consumer" macs. [/B][/QUOTE]
well, it will not make more games available on the Mac that easy...Most games depends on DirectX, which I doubt Microsoft will port in the near future to Mac. Only OpenGL games would be simpler to get working on the Mac I suppose.
[B]No sir I'm not sure if I'm interested in buying the "1730nxbultra2400" today thanks very much :D [/B][/QUOTE]
And "Performa 5200A CD-M/AV2" was better? ;) or perha
gah. I'm so glad those days are gone.
[B]Is WoW OpenGL or DirectX based? As I said in my earlier posts, games that use things like OpenGL instead of DirectX are as easy to port as they were before unless they rely on a lot of hand-optimised ASM code. [/B][/QUOTE]
Since WoW is available for the Mac, I'm quite certain that it's OpenGL based (DirectX isn't supported in MacOS, I believe).
Sanfam, well yes those were part of the "bad days" when Apple was run by an idiot who used to run Coca Cola, or was it Pepsi.
Don't worry, there's no sugar ;)
[B]Its Open GL based. So that would mean a lot of work for Blizzard to keep both versions on par. But then Bungie did this as well before they went the way of M$.
Sanfam, well yes those were part of the "bad days" when Apple was run by an idiot who used to run Coca Cola, or was it Pepsi.
Don't worry, there's no sugar ;) [/B][/QUOTE]
That was John Sculley, former CEO of PepsiCo.And yes, those were indeed dark days for Apple. I don't fault Sculley, though. He tried to run Apple "like any other normal Fortune 500 business." It's not. Apple, no pun intended, is an iCon ( ;) ) that has as much status in it's image as it has in it's financial portfolio---i.e. it's a legacy in itself, like the Stones, Greatful Dead, Beatles...and if you try to cookie cutter it to compete in an area that doesn't suit that image, you will make it fail.
Sculley didn't see that.
Steve Jobs KNOWS that.
Also, Apple is one of those few companies that needs a magnanimous and charismatic CEO to energize the customer base. Someone totally in touch with the culture the company creates outside it's four walls as well as within them. Sculley tried to improve the internal corporate culture, but never "got" the culture outside the walls of their Cupertino Headquarters.
Steve Jobs *is* the best man to helm Apple...he loves his job and the rock-star like status it comes with.
My fear is what will happen when he can no longer serve his post...
-R.
--RC