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Now this is just Sick!

ArgoneArgone Genuine Klingon
Check this out, This is just sick!!!! [url="http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/12/09/rawhide.kid.gay/index.html"]http://www.cnn.com/2002/SHOWBIZ/12/09/rawhide.kid.gay/index.html[/url]

What are they trying to do? Brainwash every one?

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  • The Rawhide Kid:Slap Leather

    *sings*
    Rollin rollin rollin
    Boy my ass is swollin
    RAWHIDE!!!
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    Why is that sick?

    Because the character is homosexual?

    Does that mean the show "Wil & Grace" is also sick?

    What about every other show that portrays gay characters? Are they all trying to brainwash people?

    The article also states that the comic will be written in a "campy" humorous style. I'd see that as more of a parody than anything else.

    *Just a warning: This is one of those topics that can easily get out of hand, so keep the discussion civil, and respect other people's viewpoints. I don't want to have to close this thread*

    [This message has been edited by samuelk (edited 12-09-2002).]
  • I'm with Argone.

    sick. (And yes, Will & Grace is sick, but then again....so are most sitcoms...

    and yes. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]

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  • ArgoneArgone Genuine Klingon
    Hey I don't want to cause trouble; but I was raised reading stories like that, and I like the Rawhide stories.

    But that was back in the days of stricker TV and reading censorship.

    I for one do not believe that the gay lifestyle should be drilled into our kids as an ok lifestyle! My opinion!

    To change a character into a something else is wrong! Make a new one, all hell would break loose if it would have been Spiderman or Batman and no I do not like those types of shows!

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  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    [quote]hell would break loose if it would have been Spiderman or Batman and no I do not like those types of shows!
    [/quote]

    It has already been done. Ever see "The Ambiguously Gay Duo" or better yet, the 1960's Batman TV series? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
  • David of MacDavid of Mac Elite Ranger Ca
    [quote]Originally posted by Argone:
    [b]Brainwash every one?

    [/b][/quote]

    If someone is so ambivilent about their own sexuality they can have it changed by a comic book, well, I'd remain firmly seated when near them, if you catch my drift. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Ah, so I am a sick, twisted, deviant, lisping, pedophilic, perverted, promiscuous, out to convert your children, effeminen, orgy loving faggot?

    Thanks

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  • [quote]Originally posted by croxis:
    [B]Ah, so I am a sick, twisted, deviant, lisping, pedophilic, perverted, promiscuous, out to convert your children, effeminen, orgy loving faggot?

    Thanks
    B][/quote]

    Wow..this one got hot quick!

    And croxis, only three of those apply. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/tongue.gif[/img]

    *Relizes he forgot the smilie at the end of his last post* oops...*edit*

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  • Ok, before I get accused of being some rasist blah blah blah...let me express my views.


    I don't mind Gays that much, they are a fact of life in todays scociety. what I DO mind, and am adematly against, is gays pushing their sexual orientation onto us.

    -End member mode. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

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  • -Enter moderator mode:

    OK, just laying a few ground rules here, because this is already a hot topic.

    Keep it clean, keep an open mind, try not to take offence, and try not to flamb.

    proceed.

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  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    I'm watching this one. No preventive action will be taken, but flames will be noted and dealt with as should any other.

    So beware...
  • BigglesBiggles <font color=#AAFFAA>The Man Without a Face</font>
    [b]*Biggles flambs A2597*[/b]

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  • ArgoneArgone Genuine Klingon
    Yes we seem to have gotten of track here, I wouldn't have really cared "Much" if it would have been a new character. But if you read the article you would see that the reason to make him "gay" was because he was shy around woman.

    How stupid is this in the days when Rawhide was a paperback series censorship was a lots stiffer than today, I mean come on.

    And comic books are aimed, in my opinion, at children and teenagers mostly. In the 60's version of Batman and Robin I never once saw them try to get the point across that it was a gay relationship! Not ever man working with man partnership is a gay relationship.

    I don't think anykind of sex needs to be put in comic books.

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  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    1) Gays have been around forever, they are just now more visible.

    2) No one wants to "push" any sexual orentation cant spell the word on you. Those who do need to be beaten with a rubber chicken.

    Yet I look forward to they day when two guys can walk down the street holding hands and no one will give them a nasty look. Is that "pushing" something onto someone?
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    I don't think there will be sex in the comic. No more than any other (nonono, not the porn comics :-P!)
  • SanfamSanfam I like clocks.
    Actually, I do!

    Comic books evolve with the times.

    In the good 'ol days of superman, beating the evil villians was all that was needed to entertain the casual reader.

    Problem is, times have changed. The old one dimensional characters don't cut it anymore. People want complicated characters who have real, complex lives. i.e. Batman, The X-Men, Spiderman. The characters in these comics all have complex, often very imperfect lives and a number of flaws. Where I'm actually going with this, I have no clue. I spent too much time doing other things, and have since forgotten my message. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/tongue.gif[/img]

    But on thinking it, that reason might be a bit lame sounding, but I think it works as well as any other. The only issue I might have with this comic is that it's apparently built just to feature a gay character rather than a super hero of some sort who just happens to be homosexual. It seems like it's a bit of a forced attempt to introduce such a character into mainstream comics.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    I think Sanflam is onto something here. Dunno why they want to force it, but who knows?! And from what I have seen gay guys often get along quite well with the ladies :-P
  • I personally don't have any problem with homosexuality. If that's how someone finds love, then at least they found it. What I do have a problem with is people (and this applies to anyone) who use their differences as a shield. One of my friends knew a guy who most of the people in my friend's group didn't like - not because he was gay, but because he was just not a pleasent person. This person, however, called anyone who didn't like him a biggot - even if it was just because the guy is a jerk. I also don't like it when anyone who has a different world view from my own tries to force it on me, in the context of this thread, a homosexual hitting on me is rather disconcerting.

    I also think that some people's paranoia about it comes from the simple, underlying instincts for survivial of the species. Let's admit it - homosexuality ensures the end of the human race if everyone did it. Also, men (fathers) don't like the idea of their genetics not being passed to the next generation because their child is gay.

    Now, in terms of the comic book, yes, I think it's a bit "forced", and as such, will probably not get much market circulation.
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    aye, its like how some blacks point to things they don't like and make it an issue about race. Its enough to drive me sane!

    I can drag this off topic more, but I wont!

    I dumped enough lighter fluid on this topic.
  • Personally, if a guy hit on me, it'd be strang, but I would still be flatered, its been a long time since anyone hit on me, and it sucks ass.... [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

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  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    [quote]Originally posted by croxis:
    [b]Ah, so I am a sick, twisted, deviant,
    [/b][/quote]

    Yeah, but thats because your from BORING!! I know about the things that go on there!
    all the weirdo's live out there! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
    [quote]
    [b]
    lisping, pedophilic, perverted, promiscuous, out to convert your children, effeminen, orgy loving faggot?

    Thanks
    [/b][/quote]

    Croxis, put down the damn cross? Making the Rawhide kid gay is a stupid idea, its like saying "just because you too are shy with girls must mean your gay!" god, if they wanted to make a gay character they should have just made a gay character, not taken one that existed and go, well since he's not good with women, he's gay! Damn most straight guys are not necissarily "good" with women, and yet still have this complete facisnation with boobies [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

    *sigh*

    Man were not all out to get you jeeze, frankly as long as your not hitting on them, most straight guys dont mind gay guys, hell they are great, LESS COMPETITON! YES!.. now its Lesbians that annoy me to no end, especialy attractive lesbians.. now THEY are a threat and must all be reprogramed! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
  • FreejackFreejack Jake the Not-so-Wise
    I'd like to weight in. I don't have a problem with an openly gay character, what I do take issue with is the way Marvel went about it.

    It seems to me they are jumping on the bandwagon and saying, "Hey look, we have a gay title character". If they really wanted to go about this and use an existing character, they should develop his realization that he is gay and explore the feelings and conflicts that arise. To me that would much more interesting than some campy, Robert Smegal knockoff.

    Jake
  • JamboJambo Scriptkiddie
    [quote]Originally posted by samuelk:
    [B]*Just a warning: This is one of those topics that can easily get out of hand, so keep the discussion civil, and respect other people's viewpoints. I don't want to have to close this thread*
    B][/quote]

    No. I will never, ever, 'respect' a viewpoint that being gay is wrong. I have quite a lot of gay friends and I've been to the gay village (here in Manchester) several times with my wife and have had a great time.

    I will never "respect" viewpoints that are clearly and without doubt wrong.
  • samuelksamuelk The Unstoppable Mr. 'K'
    [quote]Originally posted by jambo_jimmy:
    [b] No. I will never, ever, 'respect' a viewpoint that being gay is wrong. I have quite a lot of gay friends and I've been to the gay village (here in Manchester) several times with my wife and have had a great time.

    I will never "respect" viewpoints that are clearly and without doubt wrong.[/b][/quote]

    Respecting someone's viewpoint and agreeing with it are two different things.

    If you don't agree, ignore the comment and let it go. Either way, don't turn the thread into a flamewar; that's the main thing.
  • exactly, I don't agree with some peeps here, but I can resect their views.

    Frankly, I'm not going to post in this thread anymore, as they say - if you don't like whats being said, ignore it!

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  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Hey! Just because I am from Boring does not mean anything Bad! So cow tipping is our favorite passtime, big whoop. What is hard is our favorite sledding hill is also a how pasture, so we spend a lot of time dodging frozen cow pies.

    Aye, if they do a gay hero dude in a comic they should just make a new character or do what Freejack says.

    Speaking of crosses there is a work of art thing in front of our Library that looks like a vampite hamberger. It looks like a hamberger on a pedestal with a stake going though it.

    I normaly don't react like that, even to the topic in general. But there are like three things said is spacific ways that make be go kablitz. Sorry, my bad :-(
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    Can understand man, when your part of a politicized minority things can get nasty quick I bet, but I was just trying to calm you down a bit before you got yourself too worked up.

    as for Boring. uh huh sure.. god frozed cow pies.. those things are evil when thrown. I went to high school at Canby High, so that might tell you something.

    vampire burger? LOL probably not the immagery they were going for huh? its remining me of these books I read as a child, the Bunnicula series? vampire rabbit and what were implied to be his vegitable minions?

    You know coming from a rural community I find it hard to be a vegan, I KNOW cows are evil especially after they try stomping you into the turf [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]
  • croxiscroxis I am the walrus
    Cows are so stupid they deserve to be eaten (not to insult any Hindus out there!) I think snowboarding is over rated. Sleding all the way!

    I was thinking Bunnicula too when I typed that, except I couldn't remember the name of the series. I sould re-read them, seeing how I am going into education. God I can't wait to teach, its all the other crap that I have to deal with as a teacher that I don't want to deal with.

    Thanks for trying to get me to calm down. I was fine by the time I typed loving, but thanks anyways.
  • TyvarTyvar Next best thing to a St. Bernard
    Eh you seemed worked up..

    Definatly on the cows.. Im pretty contemptious of most farm animals, been around them all, and they have all tried to do me it at some point.. pigs arent so mean, unless its feeding time, they have pigglets, or in general you have annoyed them.. wait.. hell fry em up.

    Snowbording does suck, plus alot of the snowbording crowd has issues.

    Heh, I still own 3 of the four books in the bunnicula series I might have the fourth one somewhere too, god I loved that series.. chester was my hero growing up [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]

    education. ungh.. elementry education? man do you have a masochistic streak or what? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/wink.gif[/img]

    [This message has been edited by Tyvar (edited 12-10-2002).]
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