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Terminator 4 (Spoilers)
Sanfam
I like clocks.
in Zocalo v2.0
So I saw it. The movie was fairly entertaining, if a bit hard to swallow at times. Effects were shiny.
Things I liked:
The square-wave sound effects for the Terminators. It just felt really appropriate and awesomely alien to have the Terminators given such an inorganic sound. Easily my favorite sound effect in the movie. Points off for making every bit of exposed flesh in marcus' body radiate this sound at stupidly loud volumes, though. Seems to reduce his value as an infiltrator.
Old-school Ahnold. The entire fight sequence was seriously entertaining and never really felt forced. The fact that the Terminators were so hard to kill played out well here.
Terminator models fit together like clockwork. The transport housed two Hunter-Killers and at least one Harvester, which itself housed two Mototerminators, which no doubt could launch Gydrobots, who could probably release passive-aggressive greeting cards at the insurgency.
Michael Ironside.
Things I didn't like:
The ending was stupid. I would have much preferred the original concept, where John Connor dies, with his consciousness and flesh being installed on the experimental chassis housing Wright. Makes a lot more sense to me than battlefield open heart surgery and a sudden feel-good recovery. The film was reduced to a generic blow 'em up summer action fest with effectively [B]one[/B] significant thing achieved since the start of the film (Find Kyle Reese).
The extremely [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyetic"]Toyetic[/URL] handling of every Terminator. People would scream out the names of various models for no apparent reason other than to be obvious and namedrop. Some seemed to be just plain silly.
The music sucked.
Michael Ironside was killed off.
Observations:
Skynet is Mordor! Same exact visual style, same exact concept. One could easily have swapped with the other. Skynet even had the crazy person-in-command with its freaky top-floor observation post.
Terminators are apparently impossible to kill with anything but John Connor's bitchin' robot-smashing rifle. Throw them off a cliff, leap from a moving aircraft, direct high-explosive round to the chest, molten metal...nothing seemed to even slow them down.
Michael Ironside should be discovered to have been a secret new Terminator model in the next film.
Things I liked:
The square-wave sound effects for the Terminators. It just felt really appropriate and awesomely alien to have the Terminators given such an inorganic sound. Easily my favorite sound effect in the movie. Points off for making every bit of exposed flesh in marcus' body radiate this sound at stupidly loud volumes, though. Seems to reduce his value as an infiltrator.
Old-school Ahnold. The entire fight sequence was seriously entertaining and never really felt forced. The fact that the Terminators were so hard to kill played out well here.
Terminator models fit together like clockwork. The transport housed two Hunter-Killers and at least one Harvester, which itself housed two Mototerminators, which no doubt could launch Gydrobots, who could probably release passive-aggressive greeting cards at the insurgency.
Michael Ironside.
Things I didn't like:
The ending was stupid. I would have much preferred the original concept, where John Connor dies, with his consciousness and flesh being installed on the experimental chassis housing Wright. Makes a lot more sense to me than battlefield open heart surgery and a sudden feel-good recovery. The film was reduced to a generic blow 'em up summer action fest with effectively [B]one[/B] significant thing achieved since the start of the film (Find Kyle Reese).
The extremely [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyetic"]Toyetic[/URL] handling of every Terminator. People would scream out the names of various models for no apparent reason other than to be obvious and namedrop. Some seemed to be just plain silly.
The music sucked.
Michael Ironside was killed off.
Observations:
Skynet is Mordor! Same exact visual style, same exact concept. One could easily have swapped with the other. Skynet even had the crazy person-in-command with its freaky top-floor observation post.
Terminators are apparently impossible to kill with anything but John Connor's bitchin' robot-smashing rifle. Throw them off a cliff, leap from a moving aircraft, direct high-explosive round to the chest, molten metal...nothing seemed to even slow them down.
Michael Ironside should be discovered to have been a secret new Terminator model in the next film.
Comments
The cameo was the best part, but my friend spoiled it for me :(
And +1 regarding the sounds of the terminators. I'm ridiculously sensitive emotionally to sound, so that just took the whole movie from good to awesome for me.
It was a fun movie but it doesn't beat the first two. I think I prefer it to the third though.
The cameo was great, they obviously put a lot of effort into getting it to look right since it was so much better than the [SP]young Professor X[/SP] cameo in Wolverine. It was also good to see they made the T-800 scary again, they kind of lose something against the T-1000 and the silly T-X.
I was glad to see the Terminator theme and some familar queues used in the movie.
Worf
In 3 he didn't seem so tough.
Worf
Loved robots since I was 6 or 7 (and got my first Transformers album), and have had T2 as a favourite film since it came out, and this was nearly as good.
Am I the only one who doesnt like Michael Ironside?
99% good: Mototerminators rocked. Marcus rocked. Awesomely hot american-indian chick (who looks like my first gf) rocked (mostly because she was hot). Sound effects rocked (mustve been something wrong at your showing Sanfam, cause it wasnt bad at all when Marcus moved at our cinema).
1% bad: ("His heart cant take it.." + "He has a strong heart" hint.. hint..)
I love being able to read films though, and this handled it perfectly otherwise, like Marcus being half robot, figured that out from a couple of early scenes, nicely done.
Maybe because he usually plays a tough SOB? I like him. He's a bit like James Woods in any action flick, he's part of the furniture. :D
[QUOTE]1% bad: ("His heart cant take it.." + "He has a strong heart" hint.. hint..)[/QUOTE]
I didn't like the ending either, in Terminator movies someone's cool always has to die. Killing off characters sucks. I didn't care for it in BSG, I don't care for it in general. There should be a law against that.
Yes.
Not because he always plays a tough SOB, but because his acting is 2-dimensional. His always playing the same kind of characters do weigh in though.
[QUOTE=Messiah;182890]Sound effects rocked (mustve been something wrong at your showing Sanfam, cause it wasnt bad at all when Marcus moved at our cinema).[/QUOTE]
I don't remember anything less than complete praise from my post regarding sound effects! It's still one of best executed portions of the movie.
Yes.
3-dimensionality is overrated. Many cult movies contain 2-dimensional characters. Darth Vader isn't particularly subtle. Khan didn't come over as particularly sophisticated. Angel Eyes was just mean and greedy. And yet they were great.
You can't blame Michael Ironside for doing what he does best. We've seen what happens when actors try something they aren't good at. :D
Youre right Stingray, though I find that he is more like an actor playing a badass rather than an actual badass on screen.
This is what I was referencing to Sanfam:
[QUOTE=Sanfam;181932]Points off for making every bit of exposed flesh in marcus' body radiate this sound at stupidly loud volumes, though. Seems to reduce his value as an infiltrator.[/QUOTE]
Though youre right about another thing, an audience can make or break a film. First time I saw Starship Troopers, the audience were hooting whenever something they thought was cool happened, like when the generals head was cut off. tsk tsk. Really hated that movie, ended up rooting for the aliens.
Then, when I finally saw it on dvd, it was a lot better.
Anyway, the full house just had fun with the movie, including mouthing and singing along with the introductory vignettes , once of which was a 'no talking' short that included a hot blonde and tongue play with a coke cup...
Jake
But if it's laughing or reacting to moments in the movie, that's fine because most likely I'm laughing too.
Worf
I even had my wife rolling at one point. Its the scene where Rico, Dizy and Gary Busey's kid are joining the roughnecks and they ask about the Lt (played by Michael Ironsides incidentally) and the token black guy in the audience pops around the corner to talk about he saved his life. He just happens to be wearing this goofy looking (i dont know maybe) shark tooth necklace thats like 8" long. So I add libed "and bought me this bitchin necklace"
I suppose you have to see the scene in context, but gosh I had fun tonight.
I hardly go to the movies these days, I prefer the private DVD session much more. I can't stand the stale smell of popcorn and/or nicotine. I don't need an audience, while I'm watching the movie. You can stop the movie whenever you like. Screen size has no bearing whatsoever of whether I'm going to enjoy a movie or not. If the movie is really bad, people will start laughing at the wrong places.
But maybe that's just me.
Seriously, what's not to like? Look at them babes. :D I got this flick on special edition DVD. I guess I'm a fan of the original.
Not so sure about the direct-to-video sequels... but then it's hard to top the first one.
Also considering the fact that they renamed the film to Starship Troopers when they realized the plot of their movie resembled the book. They just changed the character names and setting.
And take [I]that[/I] religion!