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Twilight...
[quote][i]"It is said that the future is always born in pain. The history of war is the history of pain. If we are wise, what is born of that pain matures into the promise of a better world, because we learn that we can no longer afford the mistakes of the past."[/i]
--G'Kar in Babylon 5:"In the Beginning"
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Nearly two years ago, Sierra On-Line turned out the light on an extraordinary creation – an advanced interactive tale based on Mr. Straczynski's epic, [i]Babylon 5[/i]. Now, it is with deep regret that we must finally say that this light will remain extinguished.
Our one last effort has failed.
There are no feelings of animosity with those we were working with; quite to the contrary, in fact. We understand the decision. It makes sense. We see this, even though it was not in our favor.
[quote][i]"That's not fair."
"No, it's not, but that's what we're stuck with."[/i]
--Lyta Alexander and Dr. Kyle in Babylon 5:"The Gathering"
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Do we regret it? No way. In fact, we’ve probably done more than most will ever know to secure the future of [i]Babylon 5[/i], and that, in itself, is reward enough. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]
[quote][i]"There is … so much I still don't understand."
"As it should be."[/i]
-- Sheriden and Lorien in Babylon 5:"Sleeping in Light"
[/quote]
It has been a long road. We fought the good fight. We shared moments of utterly insane humor, we challenged ourselves in heated debates, we've cried--
We became friends.
More important than even that - we helped to create our own little international community, proving the basic goodness of ordinary people can transcend differences in faith and government; and by doing so we have succeeded in a way, because we believe that this is part of the message JMS was trying to communicate with [i]Babylon 5[/i].
[quote][i]"Babylon 5 was the last of the Babylon stations. There would never be another. It changed the future...and it changed us. It taught us that we have to create the future...or others will do it for us. It showed us that we have care for one another, because if we don't, who will? And that true strength sometimes comes from the most unlikely places. Mostly, though, I think it gave us hope; that there can always be new beginnings-even for
people like us."[/i]
--General Susan Ivanova in Babylon 5:"Sleeping in Light"
[/quote]
What's next?
Randy will be continuing with film and TV projects and his obsession with the development of effective interactive storytelling.
Christy will continue with her television career and various interactive projects, some of which you will be playing, no doubt.
Rick will be starting fresh on a completely original project, though the medium, at this point, remains open. Nothing beats being in control of your own destiny.
And the rest of the crew? Dan and Stuart are still working hard at Microsoft on future successes; Marc and family are enjoying east-coast living while he continues developing games at Firaxis; John Walker lurks here still, and when not experiencing “redneck life” firsthand, he’s experiencing the newfound joys of parenthood; Jack recently became a certified Web Designer, taking on a job at a local school; Keith continues his successful career at Foundation Imaging, bringing us some of the best effects work in the industry; and Jeff, at last call, was working on projects unnamed at Monolith.
And pretty much everyone reading this knows what The Great Maker is up to…
[quote][i]”Faith manages.”[/i]
--JMS, “Sleeping in Light”
[/quote]
Have hope. We believe that JMS will do us proud when [i]"Legend of the Rangers,"[/i] hits the screen, and, with a bit of luck, a new legacy will be born. Who knows what may grow from it? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]
Finally, our heartfelt thanks to you, the best, most loyal, zany, wonderful friends from around the world who joined us on our journey.
[quote][i]"This journey has ended. Another begins. Time ... to rest now."[/i]
-- Lorien in Babylon 5:"Sleeping in Light"
[/quote]
With heartfelt thanks,
- The “Into the Fire” Development Team
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
--G'Kar in Babylon 5:"In the Beginning"
[/quote]
Nearly two years ago, Sierra On-Line turned out the light on an extraordinary creation – an advanced interactive tale based on Mr. Straczynski's epic, [i]Babylon 5[/i]. Now, it is with deep regret that we must finally say that this light will remain extinguished.
Our one last effort has failed.
There are no feelings of animosity with those we were working with; quite to the contrary, in fact. We understand the decision. It makes sense. We see this, even though it was not in our favor.
[quote][i]"That's not fair."
"No, it's not, but that's what we're stuck with."[/i]
--Lyta Alexander and Dr. Kyle in Babylon 5:"The Gathering"
[/quote]
Do we regret it? No way. In fact, we’ve probably done more than most will ever know to secure the future of [i]Babylon 5[/i], and that, in itself, is reward enough. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]
[quote][i]"There is … so much I still don't understand."
"As it should be."[/i]
-- Sheriden and Lorien in Babylon 5:"Sleeping in Light"
[/quote]
It has been a long road. We fought the good fight. We shared moments of utterly insane humor, we challenged ourselves in heated debates, we've cried--
We became friends.
More important than even that - we helped to create our own little international community, proving the basic goodness of ordinary people can transcend differences in faith and government; and by doing so we have succeeded in a way, because we believe that this is part of the message JMS was trying to communicate with [i]Babylon 5[/i].
[quote][i]"Babylon 5 was the last of the Babylon stations. There would never be another. It changed the future...and it changed us. It taught us that we have to create the future...or others will do it for us. It showed us that we have care for one another, because if we don't, who will? And that true strength sometimes comes from the most unlikely places. Mostly, though, I think it gave us hope; that there can always be new beginnings-even for
people like us."[/i]
--General Susan Ivanova in Babylon 5:"Sleeping in Light"
[/quote]
What's next?
Randy will be continuing with film and TV projects and his obsession with the development of effective interactive storytelling.
Christy will continue with her television career and various interactive projects, some of which you will be playing, no doubt.
Rick will be starting fresh on a completely original project, though the medium, at this point, remains open. Nothing beats being in control of your own destiny.
And the rest of the crew? Dan and Stuart are still working hard at Microsoft on future successes; Marc and family are enjoying east-coast living while he continues developing games at Firaxis; John Walker lurks here still, and when not experiencing “redneck life” firsthand, he’s experiencing the newfound joys of parenthood; Jack recently became a certified Web Designer, taking on a job at a local school; Keith continues his successful career at Foundation Imaging, bringing us some of the best effects work in the industry; and Jeff, at last call, was working on projects unnamed at Monolith.
And pretty much everyone reading this knows what The Great Maker is up to…
[quote][i]”Faith manages.”[/i]
--JMS, “Sleeping in Light”
[/quote]
Have hope. We believe that JMS will do us proud when [i]"Legend of the Rangers,"[/i] hits the screen, and, with a bit of luck, a new legacy will be born. Who knows what may grow from it? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img]
Finally, our heartfelt thanks to you, the best, most loyal, zany, wonderful friends from around the world who joined us on our journey.
[quote][i]"This journey has ended. Another begins. Time ... to rest now."[/i]
-- Lorien in Babylon 5:"Sleeping in Light"
[/quote]
With heartfelt thanks,
- The “Into the Fire” Development Team
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
Comments
The following words came to me the other day while we were discussing how to say this, and I wanted to share them with you, as they seem particularly fitting...
[quote]As I look back down these aged corridors for the last time, echos from the past return to life; moments in time forever ingrained within my memory. As the lights dim one by one I realize, for the very first time, that everything I take with me is all I left behind.
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Memory and friends are treasures you take with you, and noone can take them away.
-R.
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
[This message has been edited by Rick (edited 06-11-2001).]
"Tick, Tock."
Tock for now...and I'm really looking forward to Tocking for a while...
-Rick
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[i]"...In the end it would hold because what is built endures. And what is loved endures.
And Babylon 5...Babylon 5 endures."[/i] -- Delenn in the Babylon 5 episode [i]Rising Star[/i]
Thank You.
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We Live as one, We die as one, We will face the darkness as one.
"Understanding is a Three Edged Sword- Your side, Their side, And the Truth...."
[b] With heartfelt thanks,
- The “Into the Fire” Development Team
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Thanks for 2 years of hope, I guess in some cases, Faith alone doesn't manage. I'll never understand Sierra's decision to cancel the game.
And i STILL can't believe that nobody (companies) as the vision to pick up the game and finish it. after all the hard work that's been done to keep it going
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..And so it Begins
[This message has been edited by Entil'Zha (edited 06-11-2001).]
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[url="http://www.modfactory.net"]ModFactory[/url]
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Sector14 Studios: You should be proud of the effort you have given to this project. You fought the good fight, and you made a difference. Best of luck with your future projects!
[quote]"It is better to have lived and died, than never to have lived at all."[/quote]
Your dream was too good for this world... I wish you all good with your lives and careers. You're the best.
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[b]Never start a fight. But always finish it.[/b]
Finnish techno-geek, friend of all aardvarks
Moderator at Babylon 5: Into the Fire Finland message boards
#b5itf-finland (IRCnet) channel operator
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We Live as one, We die as one, We will face the darkness as one.
"Understanding is a Three Edged Sword- Your side, Their side, And the Truth...."
[b]*fighting the lack of words*
[/b][/quote]
I've got the perfect words "This Sucks"
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..And so it Begins
[b]what will happen with this place then?[/b][/quote]
Yeah, what happens to firstones.com?
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..And so it Begins
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[url="http://www.modfactory.net"]ModFactory[/url]
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Thanks so much for all your effort and devotion over the past few years, it's been tremendous. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img] I only wish the outcome could have been different, but you've fought the good fight, and that's all that matters.
To everyone else in this wonderful community who stood by the game and the dream through all these years -- thanks so much as well. It's been inspirational and uplifting. [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
I echo D'Ren's question: what will happen to this place now? Will it meet the same fate as the Babylon station?
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[b]Commander[/b] socrates
flightleader, [i]Erinyes[/i]
The Gray Hand of Fate
AnlaShok Blackops
"Do [b]NOT[/b] interfere."
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[b]Never start a fight. But always finish it.[/b]
Finnish techno-geek, friend of all aardvarks
Moderator at Babylon 5: Into the Fire Finland message boards
#b5itf-finland (IRCnet) channel operator
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sad but true,
im drinking the whiskey in the jar through the never
and nothing else matters,
so dont tread me
because im better than you.
am I evil?
Neo, there is no SPOO.
[This message has been edited by TheEXone (edited 06-11-2001).]
[b]In the years this place has been up it has become much more than a game fourum, it became a fourum for last hopes, for friendship, a place where people from around the world came to speak, and share their dreams with those who would listen. I say this place stay open, not as a fourum for the game, but as a nexus, a mecca for Babylon5. Lets gather as much as we can about it and build it onto what already exists, let everyone who hears the message of Babylon 5 come here, for trinkets, for games, or hope.[/b][/quote]
I agree, this place should stay open!
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..And so it Begins
First - I can't buy any props cause they are too expensive and now this - No game...
(moment of silence)
OK - thanks to Sector 14 for all the hard work - It was fun being (a very,very) small part of this. Best of luck in all your future endeavours.
Gareth "Still can't believe Sierra let this die..." Jones
So, no B5:ItF then... And if i understood correctly you aren't going to start making another B5 game from scratch? Now you'll of course take some time off again, but maybe a B5:SCS later?
I'll be waiting...
No matter how long it takes, i'm not going anywhere untill i get my damn game! [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
*walks to the lightswitch and starts protecting it*
Nobody turns of the lights!
*sit's down next to the switch making sure nobody touches it*
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Ash nazg durbatulûk,
ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk agh
burzum-ishi krimpatul.
It is probably a feeling I share with many Others, too.
We had minor losses evened up by minor successes, and major losses countered with major victories. Now, the game we knew is gone. It will not return. This is not the end of hope, though. Hope remains. Hope always persists in those who believe. It is not a blind feeling, either. It only follows in the path towards victory. I believe this is just another chapter in the history of firstones.com. I would like to believe that we still have more to be written, and I will continue to do so until the day the site is deleted from the server (which it will not, if I can help it.) Firstones.com will live on.
Everyone here right now, I hope you will stay. Even if the game is gone, the community is still here. This site can persist as a general forum for any interesting discussion, babylon 5 related or not. We have had MANY fine discussions here, and I do not want those to end. Never before have I had the pleasure of posting in the midst of so many talented and respectful individuals. I send a big thanks to you.
If you are reading this, Rick, Randy, John, Dan, Marc, and the rest who I did not mention, you have been more than helpful. Your Vorlonic posts, kindness, and general persistance are beyond respectful. If I could pin a medallion onto you, I would. Do you think a little starcraft action figure is too much? [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/vsml.gif[/img] I just cannot say in words how much you are loved the the community. When I look back, I see parents caring for an ill child, not drones simply trying to bring it back so it can make money. I see genuine hope, nervousness, and dedication.
Thank you.
and since there no point i want to know the whole truth!!!
Cus Half a Truth is Worse Then A Lie!
I want to know why and everything that has ever happened about the game things that they couldent tell us beacuse they cant!!
More like a Certifiable Web Designer!!!
[img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/biggrin.gif[/img]
Well, another page turns... What will happen with Sector 14 Rick?
As to B5:Itf... May it rest in peace, and maybe a whole new project can be spearheaded by some other group like a Pheonix out of the Fire.
I'll keep visiting this place as long as it is up...
Cheers!
[/b][/quote]
Indeed [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/frown.gif[/img]
I think that's all I need to say, for now.
[This message has been edited by Mr_Bungle (edited 06-11-2001).]
The mods will continue.
The freeware project will continue.
Cheer up [img]http://216.15.145.59/mainforums/smile.gif[/img]
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Live long and.. um..
Have a Beer!
*takes a good position on the floor*
Can you tell us the [b]story[/b]?
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[b]Never start a fight. But always finish it.[/b]
Finnish techno-geek, friend of all aardvarks
Moderator at Babylon 5: Into the Fire Finland message boards
#b5itf-finland (IRCnet) channel operator